Tuesday 8 March 2016

More on Bike handling




Centre of Gravity

After searching for Photos of Greeves Silverstones from the Off road bike show December 2015 I cam across a picture of an Ariel Arrow that sported an alloy tank and clip-on bars! It looked well done with extensions to the front forks upwards to take the clip-ons.





I look at what people do to their bikes and frequently think that the manufacturers should have done this. Harley Davidson have always supplied after market parts for you to customise your bike to your taste. British manufacturers left it to people like Britax to supply universal parts that did not fit anything that well. Very little was available in the 70's and 80's to customise your machine. Things are now better than ever and you are almost able to get exactly what you want for the exact model of your machine. I follow the Bike Shed and what people do to customise their machines. Few are doing chops and most are slimming down their machines getting rid of the bling and plastic. Some manufacturers get it right and there is little needed to get the bike right for you. I particularly like this Ducati Scrambler from the 80's.



This is John's bike from the Wey Valley Bike Club.

Back to the bit about centre of gravity, how much does it affect the bike? At the upright position, not much but increases with the angle of lean. How much does your position on the bike affect it? Consider the handling of an adventure bike against a sports bike. Both can handle really well but the adventure bike has a much higher centre of gravity and does not facilitate the knee down riding style so would there be a difference in cornering ability assuming equivalent engine power and tyres? Another point is that on an adventure bike you are further away from the road to start with so to get the same angle of lean you have to move a greater distance and psychologically feel your are leaning over so much more. The tyres are still within their limits of adhesion and the angle of lean is no different. Being higher on and adventure bike gives you more leverage to be able to make the bike change direction. Much of this is do with the speed of rotation of the wheels and engine. Wheels have an immense gyroscopic action much less so for the direction of rotation of the engine. The closer you are to your wheels the lesser the effect of moving your body and legs around. Even if you are quite heavy the impact of your weight is much less than you think. It is only your upper chest and head that move the centre of gravity higher. The rest just adds to the weight of the bike and is relatively low. It is a dynamic weight that moves and is part of the bike. For reference when you add luggage to the top box or seat bag and the bike feels much more top heavy and that is because it is a static weight. It is there and does not balance itself unlike you as a rider it is also the difference between a good pillion and an inexperienced one.
The real difference is in the individual and how and where they position on the bike. It is about the psychology of the rider and about what he or she perceives or feels and do they feel good on the day!
My thought on this is that there is not a great deal of difference so to prove the point, and I do hope that Triumph will take up the challenge, take a 1050cc Tiger and a Street Triple with the same tyres and engine performance and rider and see what happens on the track where all this can be carefully filmed and analysed. One thought is that perhaps we should use a Robot rider for this exercise?


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